Establishing Trust in the Second Life Financial Markets
A key commodity necessary for the smooth functioning of any market is trust. The less trust, the greater the difficulties. In Second Life, where we only know people by the pseudonyms of their avatars, where we don’t know if someone has an alternative avatar, and where recourse is much less than in other aspects of life, trust is all the more necessary.
Unfortunately, between various scandals, fraud and stupid mistakes, the financial institutions of Second Life are not highly trusted. In order to address this, people banded together to create the Second Life Exchange Commission. It is a noble idea, that so far, has failed to live up to its promise.
In November, the IntLibber Brautigan issued a statement on behalf of the SLEC condemning the World Stock Exchange (WSE) for the way it handled a situation with Midas Bank. In part, that statement said,
As such, it is the duty of all investors and listed companies to divest from HCL and delist their companies from WSE. Companies that refuse to delist from WSE should likewise be divested from by the investing public.
The WSE responded:
The SLEC is not what it once was, it is now a front for IntLibber Brautigan to help him promote his new exchange and to allow him to try and create negative press about the WSE which he has always done since we left his land due to him trying to force WSE on a decision that wasn't in the interests of the market but his land business.
The announcement was directly posted to SLEC members by IntLibber Brautigan and only goes to confirm the above.
They allegations made by IntLibber concerning the Midas Bank situation are completely inaccurate.
In the end, there was no noticeable delistings on WSE in response to the SLEC statement.
Soon after this, IntLibber posted on the AnCapex site allegations that the CEO of Lemur Investments is a fraudster. This was responded to by Lemur Investments where they accuse IntLibber of slander.
More recently, there have been issues where IntLibber confronted Arbitrage Wise about funding behind JT Financial, the company that runs the Second Life Capital Exchange (SLCapEx). SL Reports has a disclosure from Arbitrage Wise where he posts a chat log that has IntLibber making demands of Arbitrage and threatening an FBI investigation. Strange Ranger’s response is to name IntLibber Brautigan Ass Hole of the Year and numerous groups started distancing themselves from SLEC.
With this as background, the SLEC held an open meeting last night. TraderJohn Susa started off the meeting by reminding people that the SLEC is owned by all its members, not by TraderJohn, not by IntLibber, but by everyone. He went on to talk about people joining the SLEC because they believe in the ideals of fair and ethical practices. He spoke about how this is not a game and the actions of the SLEC could have impact on the markets for years to come.
He went on to talk about the initial statement about the WSE. The general consensus seemed to be that most of the people there agreed with the general content of the message but there was considerable disagreement with the way it was executed. IntLibber spoke up noting that there was more to the story than that and TraderJohn told IntLibber he would have his chance to speak. At this point, the meeting opened up. Cadence Juran spoke about this in terms of public relations. She suggested scrubbing the current management and electing a new team. Bogart Beck suggested that SLEC needs a “sincere dialogue as to what behavior is appropriate for any member Elected or otherwise”
TraderJohn did a good job in attempting to bring the issue back to “Where do we go from here?” At this point, IntLibber took the floor and presented his view of what had happened. He started off by saying, “Firstly, the story you think youve heard has been spun by a professional, just as much of BNT's reputation has been spun by those who have sought to bring it down” He spoke for about twelve minutes concerning hacked accounts, stolen ATMs and all kinds of conspiracies against him. At this point, people started jumping in asking for proof of his assertions, particularly Cadence and Bogart.
After another ten minutes, TraderJohn told IntLibber that it was enough for this meeting and eventually told IntLibber to sit down. TraderJohn struggled to get the meeting back under control and focused on a forward facing view of how the SLEC could promote the ideals he had led off the meeting with.
Marc Attenborough and Travis Ristow both contributed to the efforts to get the meeting back on track. Mike31 Dawes offered the simple observation that he had always felt it was “a conflict of interest for any director of an exchange to be a board member of the SLEC”. He suggested that SLEC should be for investors only. This started a lively discussion, followed by Cadence pushing again for completely new management.
In the end it seemed to all devolve into issues of ego and power and the ideals that TraderJohn started off trying to get everyone focused on seemed to be forgotten. Until the key figures in SLEC can put aside their egos and their personal ambitions and focus on the ideals that TraderJohn spoke so passionately about, the SLEC is bound to be at best an irrelevant distraction.
I came to the meeting without much hope that this would happen. As I listened to TraderJohn, those hopes rose, but then as the meeting dragged on, they got dashed. So until there are some real changes, I think it is fair to consider the SLEC nothing but an irrelevant distraction.
fascinating....
Submitted by Yesterdays Tomorrow on Thu, 12/06/2007 - 13:26. span>it also sounds like they (or at least one of the directors) tried to bite before they grew teeth.
Have you heard of this site?
http://www.therockinsurance.com/
The Rock
Submitted by Aldon Hynes on Thu, 12/06/2007 - 18:35. span>Yeah, I've been watching The Rock closely. They seem like a very interesting group. Personally, I would like to see it tied together with some sort of interbanking organization. One of these days, I'll write a post about that.
Interbanking Organization
Submitted by Eliale Morigi on Sun, 12/09/2007 - 14:08. span>Dear Aldon,
yes, I would like to be part of a professional and independent organization but, unfortunately so far, it does not exist.
People like you, Nobody or Benjamin should start to consider such organization and supervise it.
Eliale Morigi
The Rock Insurance Co.
www.therockinsurance.com
In real life, the SEC is an
Submitted by http://prokofy.... on Thu, 12/06/2007 - 16:38. span>In real life, the SEC is an entity that springs from a democratic and accountable government and has various checks and balances against it. It's not a private group run by a guy named Fred. It's not a non-profit civic group like a BBB.
This SLEC is folly from the start precisely because a transparent and accountable entity can't spring fullblown like that in a context where there isn't good governance -- and some kind of democratic government -- to start with. The entities that spawned SLEC aren't a government, aren't democratically elected, aren't even acclaimed in some MMORPG like popular assembly -- they represent nothing but an interest group.
Obviously it's been taken over by special interests, and that's not surprising given the context and structure.
The SLEC has no credibility, and even replacing this gang with more credible people can't fix that. Until such time as there is a reasonable means to make a democratic and accountable resident-run government in SL, it makes more sense to have consumer advocacy groups or BBB-like groups -- but with actual following of the real-life template of a BBB, which isn't the SL-style BBB which merely has some cronies getting together and declaring themselves the white list and everybody they don't like the blacklist.
Intlibber has gone publicly on the record as being a businessman who will hire goons in the mistaken belief he is helping them to "go straight" -- he has sicced these goons on me to destroy my business, harass me and my tenants, and cause them to leave, causing me business loss. This is pretty despicable stuff. The fact that later, he broke with some of these people when they began griefing him, too, doesn't mitigate that.
Intlibber holds an extremist and sectarian ideology that he is trying to get to gain a foothold in SL. I don't see why we need to sit still for that and allow him to take over the SLEC.
I also blame squarely for this situation Robert Bloomfield of Cornell University who was incredibly stubborn in supporting the SLEC just because it made for a fun business case study for his university, isntead of understanding the havoc it would wreck in our virtual world on real people and their businesses. We're not here to simulate business for people who think it's a career-builder to observe.
Prokofy
SLEC - BBB
Submitted by Aldon Hynes on Thu, 12/06/2007 - 18:28. span>I think your right to point out the issues with the SLEC the way it is currently set up, and I do believe that making it more like a well defined and more functional BBB is the way to go.
I don't know enough about Robert Bloomfield and his classes involvement in SLEC, but I would question some of the research. I'm not sure that the sample of people involved with SLEC is a proper sample of how people might attempt to work together for business self governance.
Also, Aldon, as you yourself
Submitted by http://prokofy.... on Thu, 12/06/2007 - 16:40. span>Also, Aldon, as you yourself are a plugged in political type in RL, I'd like to hear you comment on the outrageous attempt by Intlibber to sic the House Republican Whip on Second Life businesses.
The Rock Insurance Company
Submitted by Yesterdays Tomorrow on Fri, 12/07/2007 - 12:03. span>The Rock has more teeth, but it is not hard to imagine a scenario where everyone gets cheated and the fraudster gets away with using The Rock as a device for _amplifying_ his own con.
I realize that this reduces my chances of landing a contract with The Rock myself. Then again, I can't be the only one who's thought of this. In my review of the terms of The Rock policies, I believe this maneuver is possible. More complex and lucrative "long-cons" are also possible, but this sequence of actions shows the heart of it.
1. start a bank
2. get a contract with The Rock
3. have one or more alts deposit large amounts of your money into your atm. (in reality or on paper) Any strangers who also deposit money is just gravy.
4. open insurance contracts at The Rock in the alts names.
5. fold the bank. disappear the main account from SL.
6. cash in the contracts.
I suppose this comment is more appropriate for The Rock post you are about to write. Maybe I'll repost it at that time.
The Rock Insurance Co.
Submitted by Eliale Morigi on Sun, 12/09/2007 - 14:00. span>Hello Yesterdays,
what you are posting is one of our concerns. In order to protect ourselves against similar frauds, we implemented some security checks and limits. I'm not saying we are 100% protected against any type of fraud but, we try to stay alert. :-)
However, we welcome people like you providing us inputs aim to limit frauds.
Eliale Morigi
The Rock Insurance Co.
www.therockinsurance.com